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ReplyDeleteHi Russ,
ReplyDeleteI've been attaching the DNA Match Confirmed fact to my DNA matches in FTM 2017. Now is there a way to do a search or report to find all those people?
Thanks!
Michelle
Michelle,
DeleteThis may turn into a blog post, but in the mean time.
So, you have a FACT called "DNA Match Confirmed" ? Right
You can FILTER in Everyone with that has that Fact. Filter, Filter In, All Facts, Select that DNA Match Confirmed Fact, Any Data, Exits.
Any of my Filter In, Filter Out blog posts goes into more detail.
The key is that you created a FACT, so you can Filter On Facts
Russ
Cousin Russ,
ReplyDeleteI am having issues with my blog posts on Blogger not showing up via a Google search. I've been researching this for the past week and can't figure out what the cause is. I've created a blog post to explain what is going on: https://heartlandgenealogy.blogspot.com/2019/02/why-not-indexed.html. If you or any of your community have any suggestions on how to fix this issue, I'd love to hear them!
Dear Cousin Ross,
ReplyDeleteI will be very gratefull if you could help me with this: I need the last update/patch for Family Tree Maker 2014, but I coudn´t find it anywhere. I think that the last patch version is 22.0.0.1410. Do you have it? It is possible to share it? I will be very gratefull if you could help me.
Best regards.
Pacheku,
DeleteYou really need to upgrade to FTM2017 as you are missing many features, especially TreeSync now FamilySync.
Please go to familytreemaker.com support page and LiveChat. They should be able to get you updated quickly.
Russ
Is this where I ask a question about Family Tree 2017 syncing with Ancestry? I want to sync a Family Tree (on 2017) to an already created tree on Ancestry. Is this possible? I own both trees - or I have created them both. The tree on Ancestry is Thomas 2017-5-27 Thanks, MaryB
ReplyDeleteMary,
DeleteOne FTM2017 FILE to One Ancestry Member Tree.
Russ
In Family Tree Maker 2017, is there any advantage to having the cemetery name in the Place field instead of in the Description field? If so,is there a way to move the information to the Place field without just cutting and pasting?
ReplyDelete"Unknown"
ReplyDeletePlease update your Google Profile.
The answer is absolutely. In my blog, ftmuser.blogspot.com I have many examples. I put the Cemetery Name in the Place field, and use the Historical Place Name feature. (see blog)
Russ
Cousin Russ -- you have stated several times that you use FTM 2019 on your PC; your laptop; and your MAC. You also recently blogged that you add "laptop" to you FTM 2019 file naming scheme.
ReplyDeleteMy question is what process/procedure do you follow that would allow you work on your FTM file on your laptop, say when traveling, and then on your PC when you return home? Do you restore a laptop backup file to your PC and rename it? Curious as I am trying to work out a way to use FTM on both laptop and PC. Thanks. Ted.
Ted,
DeleteYes, Back Up from the Laptop and Restore to the Desktop. Rename the FILE on the Desktop to remove the "Laptop" part of the Filename
I may have to do a blog post on that.
Hope that helps,
Russ
Yes. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone had a Sync problem resolved after installing the FTM 2019 update?
ReplyDeleteMy situation is that a SYNC FAILED message appeared while trying to sync one of my trees in FTM 2017 several months ago and I've been putting off fixing it, while not updating that tree in either Ancestry or FTM. (I had asked FTM support if it was okay to install FTM 2019 while I still had the Sync problem and they said it was.)
Kaye,
DeleteResolve sync issues when Upgrading ?? Not really,
Will upgrading to FTM2019 hurt anything ? No, but it's not a good thing to EXPECT an update or upgrade to resolve a problem.
So, That said, I have questions for you.
Do you Compact and Back Up your File BEFORE you Sync? (Compacting to 0.00%)
Once you have had a Sync issue, have you gone to Live Chat AFTER you send the Failed Sync Report from the Help Menu?
Also, It's important to read this Knowledge Base Article on the current situation with the Amber Sync Weather Report.
https://support.mackiev.com/336868-Sync-Weather-Status-for-FTM-2017-and-FTM-2019
Russ
HELLO
ReplyDeleteI AM USING FAMILY TREE MAKER 2019
I HAVE SEVERAL PHOTOS WITH UP TO FIFTY INDIVIDUALS ON THEM AND WOULD LIKE TO CROSS REFERENCE THESE PERSONS TO A LIST OF NAMES
I HAVE BEN TOLD THAT THIS COULD BE DONE BY CREATING A GHOST OR OUTLINE IMAGE WHERE THE INDIVIDUALS COULD BE NUMBERED ENABLING THEM TO BE LINKED TO THE LIST
I AM NOT SURE HOW TO DO THIS WITH FTM 2019
ANY HELP WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED
MANY THANKS
PATRICK
Patrick,
DeleteUpper / Lower case please.
I have already answered your question. See my blog post
Russ
I want to cite newspapers.com on FTM but when you "Save to Ancestry" on ancestry.com, it creates a new fact in FTM. How do you save the clipping from newspapers.com to FTM and cite the source without creating a new fact every time?
ReplyDeleteUnknown,
DeleteI do not do that. I do a Web Merge, of the Newspaper.com article, using the Web Clipper, AND Save as a JPG or PDF file to my computer.
What Facts does ANCESTRY create that ends up in Family Tree Maker ?
Russ
Did you ever get a reply to this? Attaching a Newspapers.com article to a person in Ancestry creates a separate Fact for that person in Ancestry, which in turn transfers to FTM.
DeleteAs an example, I attached an article titled "Blue Earth Farmer Dies in Accident" to someone in my tree. It created a Fact in Ancestry with that title. After Syncing in FTM a Fact was created there with the same title.
The thing that really bugs me about this is when I want to print a report in FTM....say, a Family Group Sheet. When I am selecting which Facts I want to include on the report all of these individual stories that I've linked to people using Newspapers.com appears in my Fact list, which really clutters it up.
Kaye,
DeleteFirst, I do not work in my AMT. I do ALL merges in FTM2019, including Newspapers.com (both versions).
What FACT does it Create?
It should ONLY add a Newspaper Citation to the Facts that you attach that Citation to.
The "Blue Earth Farmer Dies in Accident" should be the Title of the Article in the Citation.
YOU need to report this to Ancestry, if I understand the issue and your question.
FTM2019 is only providing what Ancestry gave you. Sounds like you have Clean Up to do, in FTM2019. Making that "Blue Earth Farmer Dies in Accident" a citation and linking that Citation to the Facts / Information you gathered from that Newspaper.com article.
Russ
I understand what you're saying. And if that's the case (and I know that it is), then Ancestry is also behaving erroneously by creating multiple sources with the exact same name for many, MANY other kinds of records. As an example, I have 3 sources called "1900 United States Federal Census". Under the first source are 76 Citations the second source has 32 Citations and the third source has 3 Citations.
DeleteWhat the heck is a person supposed to do? They make it so easy for us to attach records to our trees, but they're incorrectly handling those sources that get attached to our trees. Am I right?
Kaye,
DeleteI have many Source Groups, 1900 Census. NONE are 1900 United States Federal Census, as I MOVE ALL Ancestry Citations / FTM2019 Generic Source Groups, to the Source Template Feature. But each of my 1900 Census Source Groups are then by State. Then Each State will have many Citations, which would be by County, using the Source Template. Then Each Citation, would be by Household, as defined by the Heading of the Census Record. Each of those Citations, will have Many Links to Facts.
What ANCESTRY does and wants, as you can see in your AMT, Each Line on a Census Record (or person within a household) will have their OWN Citation. One Citation, several Facts, per person.
I want ONE Citation, Many People (Household), Many Facts.
IF you were to download from Ancestry, you'll see the One Person, on Citation, several Facts, for that census record.
What is a person to do " Use the Source Template Feature.
Its a matter of understanding WHAT Ancestry is doing, forgetting the why, and develop a plan, yourself, as to how to handle it.
The first thing I do when I do a Web Merge, and I ALWAYS do a Web Merge, is to convert that Citation, into a Source Template. AND, craft the Citation to meet the EvidenceExplained as closely as possible.
Russ
Cousin Russ- I spent all weekend adding records to my FTM2019 file (free Newspapers.com weekend) only to discover that I was not using my most current data file. Is there any way to merge the files to keep all of the changes from both data files? Or any way to recreate the changes made to one file to the other?
ReplyDeletenm,
DeleteYes, you can always Merge two files AFTER Backing both of them up.
Not what I would do, however.
I would Print the Change Log from the "wrong" file, then re-create the steps in the correct file.
I would copy the Links from your Citations, for those Records you Merged into the Wrong File, and use those links in the Web Search Workspace, from the correct Profile, and Redo your Web Merges.
Yes, that may sound like a lot of extra work, but that it what I would do. Reason: Looking at the same record a 2nd time, may present to you information that you didn't see the first time.
Russ
Data Error Report - Clearing Errors
ReplyDeletePossible duplicate event: Residence
Once the Data Error Report is run, you can double click on the Name which takes you to the facts. You supposedly can make changes here by deleting the duplicate Residence fact, but this does not appear to take effect. ESC > takes you back to the Data Errors Report. If I Generate Report again, nothing has changed.
You must go to People > Person > to delete the duplicate Residence fact. Then Publish > and the potential Error is gone, but the Name and Birth Date is still on the report.
Solution:
If there is no Potential Error, then I do not want a report generated with the name only. Change the Data Errors Report Options, uncheck > Include individuals without errors. Problem fixed.
Issue #2
The individual has the same last name as his/her spouse.
When this is true, how can you resolve the error?
I had some examples to display, but they would not show up. Is there another way to send questions where I can show you detail so it is easier to follow?
Jimmy,
DeleteDid you read m blog posts on the use of the Data Error Report ? I suggest that you do, as I have covered many of your questions before.
I'd be very careful wit the Residence Fact.
Have you considered using the Preferred Only feature in the Data Error Report, as I have blogged about ?
Yes, you can Edit the Profile from the Report.
Same Surname for Spouse? How do you enter Unknown Names ? I realize that you may have spouses with the same surname, as families may have intermarried. Is that your case, or are you just entering a married name for a female and not her maiden name.
Russ
I don't know if I'm doing this right. I would like to know if there is any way to get a count of how many people of one surname I have in my tree.
ReplyDeletemanatee3,
DeleteYou only need to ask the question one time. Thank you.
Filter In, Name Fact, Contains, and enter the Surname in the field on the right of that dialog box
Russ
Hello,
ReplyDeleteAlthough I have been researching my family for quite a few years, I have only now begun to scrutinize the quality (or lack thereof) of my sources and my citations of them. My question is simple and basic, but important, I feel. FTM/Ancestry seems to lump censuses of a given year into sources only bearing the name of the year. To my way of thinking, I should have many sources for a given year; 1850 US Federal Census, Population Schedule, Pennsylvania, Lancaster County, Lancaster, ED# xxx, sheet# xxx (and so on) being one such source. Citations would then be made for each person of interest on that page. Is this line of thinking correct, or should there be one source for the 1850 US census with all the more specific descriptors in the citations? If so, what sweeping generalizations can I make for all of the 1850 US census data published by Ancestry? [Have I made any sense? Be kind, I'm just trying to put all the pieces together.]
Thanks,
--- Tom
Tom,
DeletePlease go to my blog, https://ftmuser.blogspot.com and search for census. I have blogged about this many times.
Russ
No doubt. Thanks Russ.
Delete--- Tom
Hi Russ
ReplyDeleteI hope I havent posted this question twice.
I am using FTM 2019.
I have worked out how to view a smaller family tree from my very large 'whole' family tree.
I would like to make these into separate family tree?
Is that possible on FTM 20129 and if so how could I do it.
I would appreciate your help.
Mary
Mary,
DeleteYou can use the File, Export feature of FTM2019, and select Who you want to be in the Smaller FILE. You would select something like Descendants of, or Ancestors of, for those you want included in the smaller file.
Hope that helps.
Russ
Thanks Russ.
DeleteI exported the file. It saved as a backup file for which I chose a name. I thing imported the backup into FTM 2019 and I now have it.
Sincere thanks
Mary
Hi Cousin Russ,
ReplyDeleteThanks for all you do for FTM users. I am FTM2019 Win10 Pro work in FTM and upload to Ancestry. I have three questions:
1. Could you provide me (with payment) a copy of your Aug 1 2020 talk on data entry standards?
2. Please give me feedback on this... I was recently "bullied" off the FTM Suggested Innovations Facebook group because I suggested that FTM would be an improved product by marketing itself with to a more diverse social audience. Unfortunately, I didn't express myself as "persuasively" as just now but I was still surprised the the angry response.
3. On a personal note, my family lived on Hell's Mountain near Oldwick, Hunterdon Co, NJ. Anywhere near you?
In a separate comment, I will ask a technical question about best practices for place names.
Best, George Waller (Farmington CT)
George,
DeleteCan't help you with #1. It is a 2 hour workshop.
Also, can't help you with #2, as I have no control on Facebook.
#3 is easy, Yes, it's about 20 minutes from where I am.
My Blog, ftmuser.blogspot.com has my best practices for Place Names. Search for "historical" for historical place names.
Russ
Dear Cousin Ross,
ReplyDeleteI've been syncing FTM with Ancestry for over 15 years. I currently use FTM 2019 on a PC. I'd like to finally understand why, sometimes, there are duplicate media files within my family tree's Media folder.
For example, for my "Torgerson" family tree, in the "Torgerson Media" folder there could be two identical photos with file names of "Frances Kraft and sisters" and "Frances Kraft and sisters(1)". (Minus the quotations, of course.)
I know how to delete the extra file(s) to fix the problem and I know how to determine which file(s) I can and can't delete by checking in FTM as to which file the media record is attached to.
However, what I don't know is what is causing this to happen? I'm sure it's something I'm doing, so can you enlighten me?
Kaye,
DeleteDon't know why I hadn't answered this one.
First, The Sync did NOT cause this.
Each Family File that you have WILL have a Media Folder.
The (1) indicated that you are using the SAME FILENAME for a Media file twice. Actually, you may NOT see a (1), but a (2). Bottom Line, SAME Filename for the Media File.
Now, since you mention that the Media file is of Sisters, that may give a hint as to the Cause.
Where did you Add that Media File, In the AMT or in FTM2019 ? Are you using the SAME Media file for both sisters, using LINKS from that Media file to the two profiles? Using a Link from One Media File, to two Profiles would NOT have caused the (1) or (2).
I can not guess how you caused the (1), unless you used the SAME Media File, and used the ADD Media option for the 2nd sister. So when you ADDED that Media file to FTM2019, it added the (1).
If I have two people in an image, my filenaming convention would be to use TWO Filenames. So, one would be Frances Kraft and the next one would have the Sister's Name. Using the SAME Media file outside of FTM2019.
Russ
I was sure I entered a question here for you a few days ago, but now I don't see it. Did it not get saved?
ReplyDeleteKaye,
DeleteI haven't had a chance to answer your question.
I will
Russ
Cousin, FTM 2019: When in People/Tree view, and I am home person, my son is connected to me. When my son is home person there is no father & mother listed in the Family Group View and son and wife are only people on pedigree chart????
ReplyDeleteRegards,
C Gearhart
chasgear9@gmail.com
C Gearhart,
DeleteLook at the Relationship Tab in the People Workspace, Person View
Russ
Cousin Russ;
ReplyDeleteI was looking at your video at https://cousinrusscommunity.blogspot.com/2014/11/cousin-russ-has-some-cool-ideas-for.html Inited States posted on 24 November 2014. At3:57 in the video, you mention if using Google Docs, if you enter data into a cell, example: 1880 United States Federal Census, and the click ihe link icon menus bar, it will bring some results. Now I haven't used google doc for some time, I got one result and it was for https://www.genealogybank.com . Maybe google has changed some of it's format since when you did your video. Not sure.
Bennett
Bennett,
DeleteGenealogyBank may have that record set. Did you check ?
Russ
When doing a merge from Find-A-Grave, all persons listed are imported correctly into FTM. However, I noticed the source citation references only the initial person listed on Find-A-Grave website. Is it important to you to later import the Find-A-Grave source citation for each individual person too?
ReplyDeleteWhen creating a Find-A-Grave fact, using” Find-A-Grave, Compler” where you list the Find-A-Grave ID in the description field, do you link this source citation to any other facts (name, birth, death, burial)? Or is it just a stand-a-lone fact?
Jimmy,
DeleteThe Web Merge feature on the Find A Grave website will only bring in that Profile. (One Person)
The Ancestry Index for Find A Grave may include those other people, but only one person is merged from the Find A Grave website.
I do NOT create a Find A Grave ID Fact. I do create a Memorial Number. I Cite all Facts that are included in the Web Merge from the Find A Grave Website. The Memorial Number is only one of many Facts that may be included.
Russ
Thanks for your prompt reply. I think I was confused and tried to create a separate citation just for the Memorial Number. First, merge all persons from the Find A Grave Index as needed. Then change the Find A Grave citation to a template format (which might have multiple persons and facts). Next, add the Memorial Number as an additional fact and link it to the above citation.
DeleteI depend a lot on your videos and explanations. Screen shots are wonderful. I wish there were a way we could include those when we have a question, as it might be easier to explain our issues. I did notice that the August 29, 2018 video for “Genealogy Do Over (Go Over) Find A Grave – Photo Citations” does not have a link to play.
Jimmy,
DeleteThe Merge ALL from the Find A Grave INDEX already works. Remembering that that Index is on Ancestry, NOT Find A Grave
Yes, if when you Merge, from the Find A Grave Index from Ancestry, I think it is best to Move that Citation to the Find A Grave (Cemetery Derivitive) Source Template. The Memorial Number should NOT be included in the Find A Grave Index from Ancestry. There is two links in the Citation screen, to the Index which will take you to the Find A Grave Website.
From THERE you would add the Memorial Number as a FACT (if you wish) it it would be part of the Find A Grave (Website) Source Group. That is a Different Source Group from the Index from Ancestry.
Remember that the Evidence Explained Citation does NOT include URLs to records, only to the Root of the Website.
I will not address generic information that you, the use, might include in your Citation.
You can always live comments on the specific Blog Post.
Russ
Using FTM-2019. Today, for the first time ever, I am seeing Ancestry and Family Search hint-icons ONLY in the index and not on the tree itself. I am accustomed to seeing them in both locations. Have I “broken” something?
ReplyDeleteIsaiah,
DeleteHave you compacted and backed up your File?
I would do that now, do a File, CLOSE, then File, Exist. Followed by Restarting your computer. Then re-open FTM2019 AND that same file and see if the problem still exists.
Russ
If I may ask how you would handle citations for a family on census before the 1880 census's. Before the 1880 census, relationship are not stated. I know the individuals enumerated is one family. So would all be linked to the census or each have their own citation.
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteThe same as all other Census records, by household.
Russ
I created a template for 1850 U.S. Census, Virginia, Pittsylvania, Population Schedule. Once I move the free form source to the new template, the district shows in front of Pittsylvania, Virginia. "Year: 150; Census Place: Northern District, Pittsylvania, Virginia..." Should I move the enumeration district to follow Virginia? Otherwise, the Source Citations will not sort properly since I want it to show by County, State. Just wanted your thought.
DeleteJimmy,
DeleteWhich Source Template did you use? Does NOT sound like you selected the correct one. What are you looking at AND Where did you get if from? are the questions to select the correct Source Template.
Russ
Pretty sure I used the correct one. Add Source > New > Source template (entered cen), then picked this from the dropdown list.
ReplyDeletePopulation Schedule - United States , 1850-1870 (by Census Year and Location).
Jimmy,
ReplyDeleteYou might want to go back and Recheck (Edit Source)
YYYY U.S. Census, State, County
Should be in the Source Group column.
The item from the Dropdown list that you chose should have worked.
Russ
I see my error. When filling in the information for the template, I should have put in the County block: Pittsylvania, Northern District. This puts the district where it is supposed to be, after the county. Rather than seeing just one template for each Virginia, County, I could have multiple templates for each county, depending on how may districts I have.
ReplyDeleteI do not see a lot of difference between the Free Form format and the Template other than in the Source title.
Jimmy,
DeleteThe Source Template you selected (and I use it as well), Each County will be a Source Group (Left Panel). The Citation Details, will then add the Next level of jurisdication.
One suggestion, that I have Blogged about, it so use the word County after the County Name. The Source Template doesn't do that, so just add County after the county name.
You WILL see the different in the Reference Note to see the difference in format.
Russ
I am using Version 11 (2003) of Family Tree Maker. I am writing a book for my siblings and I have run up against a problem. I want to insert a copy of the Family Group Sheet in each family. However, I export the FGS as pdf and convert it to word. But, it will not let me copy and paste into my book. Can you help me with my problem. Thank you so very much.
ReplyDeleteUnknown,
DeleteVery old technology.
What are you trying to Copy and Paste? The Word Document?
Have you tried a blank Chapter and paste that way.
I don't remember the details of how to do what I think you are trying to do.
FTM2019 and the FamilyBookCreator PlugIn would probably be the easiest way to do this, if the above doesn't work.
Russ
I've watched you video "FTM2017 Sources Workspace" and I am referring to location 18:51 in the video. After creating citation for the first page, I right-clicked it and selected "Add New Source Citation", for rest of the family. After synced tree Ancestry.com results was not what I expected. There is two 1920 census, one under "Ancestry Sources" and the other one under "Other Sources" So am not sure why two was created. Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteThat is NOT how to add the Citation from Page 1 to the 2nd page.
2nd ICON to the right in Add Citation, to COPY the Citation from page 1, then go to the 2nd page and use the 4th Option in the first ICON, which will use the Citation from page 1 to page 2.
I have several examples on the BLOG on how to do this.
Russ
I've must of done something wrong, it got messed up. Good thing I do back-ups regularly, because I had to do a restore. Now reading your respond, you mention 2nd icon to the right. I believe your referring people > person workspace far left panel. After a few attempts and all failed, I did search your blog demo video or post, did not find it.
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteNo, not there.
Where you should do ALL of your work on a Profile, People Workspace, PERSON View, RIGHT Panel, where the Source and Citation's are added. The 2nd ICON is Copy Citation for the first Fact, then go to the 2nd Fact, Select the first ICON (new), 4th item in the Pull Down menu, Paste
Russ
When I publish an Outline Descendant Report there is an [Unknown Spouse] inserted for any unmarried person with a child. I use this format for printing/publishing the book I make available to everyone. Having [Unknown Spouse} makes it look like I'm personally making a judgement call that they should be married. I've tried the "detach person" but their is no check box next to Unknown Spouse.
ReplyDeleteJane,
ReplyDeleteI have a number of blog posts for Unknown Spouces. On the blog, search for Unknown or scroll down to unknown
Russ
If I may ask, am trying to select a source template for State or County marriage index. After clicking the "add" icon in sources workspace and then new, I've type the first three letters; mar, ind, dat and vit, but not seeing a template I can use. I've have watched your video, "how to select a source".
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteWrong Keyword search.
Are you looking at an Image or a Database. Indexes would be Database.
Give that a try.
Russ
Working with both. I did try the first three letters, ima. I guess the options in the drop down did not look right.
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteIt will not be obvious.
I have been complaining About this for 10 or 12 years.
I only use three or four Source Templates. I usually try to have the Source Template in my blog posts.
Russ
I just came across a 1900 federal census where the ED and SD numbers is blank. This is a first for me. For now, in citation detail, I have it as SD ___ and ED ___. Am trying to figure if that is a proper way or not in doing this. So how would you handle this? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteAfter looking at a page or two before and after, still not finding the SD or ED number is would record, in the Citation, as "SD [ blank ], ED [ blank]"
Russ
I've have noticed that at times when working with templates for census, I do not see a film roll number or a microfilm number. Is this common, and if so, is it best just to leave that info blank? Am asking how would you handle something like this. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteThe roll number has been on each Census Record I have looked at on Ancestry. It's in the Source Information for that record.
Russ
Ben,
DeleteThe roll number has been on each Census Record I have looked at on Ancestry. It's in the Source Information for that record.
Russ
Here is a sample from a 1930 census. I see a publication number but not an roll number. Also there are times it will be stated as as Roll T625-652 and the publication number as T625. Can they be the same?
ReplyDeleteSource Citation
Year: 1930; Census Place: Muskegon, Muskegon, Michigan; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0031; FHL microfilm: 2340749
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626, 2,667 rolls.
Ben,
DeleteYOU posted the roll number
Roll T625-652 --- I think that the Roll number is 652. Take a look at FHM 2340749
Russ
If I may leave a comment, never really understood the publication numbering system, I thought it meant stating page 625 to and ending page 652.
ReplyDeleteIn reviewing some of my data m I realized the source information on ancestry for the 1940 census, it does not mention anything about the FHL microfilm number like the previous years.
ReplyDeleteBecause my citation detail looks like this:
Marro Twp, Marro Bay, Supervisor’s District No. 10, Enumeration District 40-12, sheet number 5B, (penciled), (108 stamped), Dwelling number 434, Family number 334, Lines 3-6, Oscar Strom household; FHM microfilm number ------
So would it be appropriate just not enter here the FHL info?
Ben,
DeleteThat would be correct. Ancestry did not get the images from FamilySearch. So NO FHL film number.
Russ
Cousin Russ,
ReplyDeleteHow do I delete an unused category from my tasks section in FTM?
Thanks,
Nélida
Nelida,
DeleteSelect the Task and click the red X at the top of the list. You can delete tasks
Rusd
Nelida,
DeleteSorry, missed a step.
NEW, Select the unwanted Task, and on the right is a Delete button.
Russ
Happen to notice on the 1940 census, the 1935 residence is blank. there ere no ditto marks or anything. Also at times I have seen the occupation's of an person with a line through it. Is that where the enumerator misunderstand the answer? Like this one sheet there were a total of 6 different peopple.
ReplyDeleteHi, I have been using FTM for many years and merged a number of files together from cousins so my tree now has 9,700 names. But the most recent merge file had a large number of duplicates and even triplicates suggesting there were loops between the files i.e. more than one connection? Anyway, there were about 1,500 of them and it took a while clean them out because the bulk method EDIT, FIND DUPLICATES misses quite a few (about 500). So the other method, one by one is needed. The file size dropped fom 400mb to 17mb which shows how bloated it was.
ReplyDeleteThe most interesting discovery however was that someone at some stage must have double entered my wife's name, the second time mis-spelt. So FTM thought I had been married twice. (My wife of 40 years was quite surprised). I deleted the stray wife but FTM insisted on saying in reports that I had been married twice, second wife unknown. The only work around seems to be to reinsert the second wife with your first wife's name, then merge the two. Problem solved.
Simon - Australia
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ReplyDeleteAnother topic on FTM anomolies - trying to display my father's second marriage where he hooked up with his sister in law. Yes, a bit embarrassing but entirely legal! The only way to link these two in a tree is to manually put a line between them on the pdf, FTM refuses to do it for some reason. But to do that their text boxes need to be side by side, not in the default locations. The kind people there explained that you can drag the boxes whereever you want in preview stage which is helpful.
But the fact remains that you can't digitally create a marriage between two people previously married to other people. One the other hand maybe using the previous post's trickery it might be possible. Insert a duplicate of the second wife's name then merge the two? Worth a try.
Simon - Australia
I have come across trees on ancestry that have an asterisk before the given name on seemingly random individuals. I don't know if they're family tree maker users or strictly web users. Is this some sort of brilliant wildcard search-in-the-background method, just a way of flagging certain records, something quirky to mark their work to see if it has been copied (do people really do that?), or something else I haven't thought of?
ReplyDeleteCan't help you there. That's an Ancestry Question, Not Family Tree Maker
DeleteSorry
I came across a census where it very hard to make out what the enumerator wrote. But when I hover over the name, this is on ancestry web site, the transcriber transcribed it as El*bth.In FTM, I enter name as it was transcribed. Would you of done it in another way?
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteI ALWAYS look at the Document and record what is there. I usually, especially in the Name, will record the transcription, NOT make it Preferred AND make a Note in that Name Fact
Russ
ReplyDeleteObituaries may be found online from funeral homes, newspapers, and online archives such as Legacy.com. or tributearchive.com (and many others). The source may or may not include both the funeral home and newspaper where it was originally published. I want one source group citation called “Obituary” rather than lots of different newspaper or funeral home source groups.
Source Group “Obituary”
Citation detail: Surname_FirstName_MiddleName (married last name 1) [therefore name will match to my FTM tree and will be easy to find], Funeral Home or Newspaper (City, State), date [date published]
Citation text: Name as listed in obituary, (birth year – death year), accessed date
Web address: URL where obit can be found.
Citation text: no check Web address: checked
Copy the obituary to a word document and save as a pdf. Then attach to the citation. Cousin Russ showed this in a recent post, but I cannot find it now. That was a great idea because it is not apparent how long this URL will be available. Also put a copy of the citation in the header of the word document before saving as a pdf.
1 – Give me any advice on my citation.
2 – If you have both the newspaper and the funeral home names, should you list both? Does one supersede the other?
3 – When going to Sources > Source Groups (Obituary), I noticed in the center of the page where the Source Citations are listed, it includes both the citation detail and the citation text, regardless if the box is checked. This probably ok, I just noticed it.
Jimmy,
DeletePlease refer to EvidenceExplained.
A Source Group would NOT be "Obituary", but rather a Website or a physical Newspaper.
Russ
I realize my citation would not conform to EE standards. My point was I did not want to have multiple Source Groups for a website that may not be stable or multiple funeral homes or newspapers. I preferred to have one obituary with all pertinent information. There may be more than one way to skin a cat that would give the same results.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to know the pros & cons of the different ways to enter stories into Ancestry. Should I upload a file (with the choices being DOC, DOCX, PDF, RTF & TXT)? Or is it better to choose "Create Story" and type it directly into Ancestry? (Side note: Whenever I've chosen "Create Story", I've already typed the story into MSWord & saved it as a DOCX file. I then copy & paste the text from MSWord into Ancestry.)
ReplyDeleteKaye,
DeleteI put EVERYTHING in FTM2019 !!!!
Short answer, any way that works for you.
Attach that "story" to the Profile in FTM2019 as a Media File. You can even use the Smart Story feature of Family Tree Maker.
I don't put anything into my Ancestry Member Tree (AMT). I Sync in from FTM2019.
Russ
I have two trees, one with 11 sources with 15 templates and the other tree with over 800 sources with 345 templates. I created a research notes report with name fact with sources only. The 1910 census was not included in report. So, I did do the same for the other tree. All was fine. Have you ever experienced that?
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteThere are only 179 Source Templates in FTM2019. So, I don't know what your 800 and 345 numbers are.
There are Source GROUPS, they may or may NOT be using the Source Template Feature.
Research Notes --- are you talking about a Research LOG ( or research Note) ?
The 1910 Census could appear on one or two ways. Using the Residence FACT or by generating a Source Report that included any Source Group referring to the 1910 Census Source Group.
Russ
Have you ever come across a census record where a person is enumerated in two household? In 1880 he is enumerated in household with his mother and also enumerated with his uncle's census for 1880. All the data matches right down to the birth info.
ReplyDeleteBen,
DeleteYes, several times. But the reason may be in the details of the Census Record.
One example, the Household MOVED between the two records.
What is the relationship to the Head of Household (uncles cousin)
Russ
This is momre of an Ancestry question than FTM question. A time or two I've run into situations where months or even years after saving a census record for an individual, I'll bring up that image again to look at it, and it's a different image than what I originally save. (It may be a page or two before or after the page my ancestor was on.)
ReplyDeleteWhen I complained to Ancestry about it they said that it can happen when they re-index their records.
Personally, I find this unacceptable as a researcher would constantly have to re-check saved images to be sure they're still correct.
What are your thoughts on this? How would you handle it? (That's a very vague question, I know, but I am dumbfounded.)
Kaye,
DeleteThat is why my DATABASE, on my PC, is most important and for the reasons you saw.
Russ
And I do save these records on my computer. But to actually "know" that one or two individuals has a census record that is incorrect is virtually impossible to notice unless you were to check every single one. That's a lot of records considering how many times an ancestor is counted in a census! I just find it astounding that Ancestry allows this to happen. I am positive that many genealogists/family historians have no idea this is happening.
DeleteI noticed when you merge a Find A Grave record with multiple persons, it creates a source citation on each individual and links the related facts to that citation. So far so good. However, the citation on each of the other persons refers to the original person. If you click on the URL, you will see the original person but can get to the other individuals. Question: Do you also go back and get the actual Find A Grave record for each other person. I do. Just wondering what your thoughts were on this. Personally, I like to a have one individual Find A Grave citation for each person.
ReplyDeleteJimmy,
DeleteWhat do you mean by Find A Grave RECORD ?
I Cite the Index from Ancestry as step one. I then use the Web Clipper and go to the Find A Grave Website and Merge that Memorial.
I have blogged about this in the past.
Russ
We have a failure to communicate. You are north and I am south of the Mason Dixon line. When you do a merge of a Find A Grave Index record. Please reread what I asked without being so technical. I am an old fart, too. 73.
ReplyDeleteJimmy,
DeleteBe kind to your elders, please.
Have you read my other Find A Grave Blog Posts, as I suggested. Go down the Left Panel, or search for "find a grave" in the upper left on this blog.
Russ
I try to read all your blog posts. The one I am referring to is December 25, 2017 – Observation when doing a Web Merge on a Find A Grave INDEX Hint for Two People. I would not have asked the questions if I could have found the answer. But a lot has been written, so I apologize if I have overlooked it somewhere.
ReplyDeleteOnce this merge is done on two people, in this case the citation on Betty will show the name as Roy K Holsather in the Find A Grave citation. The URL will also take you to Roy but you do see Betty. The main questions: (1) Do you also go back and get a separate Find A Grave Index for Betty. (2) Do you do a separate Fact for each “Find A Grave ID”; Roy # 129495469 and Betty # 129495466. (3) A separate Find A Grave, Compiler source citation for Roy and Betty since they are different numbers, and (4) a separate URL since it would take you directly to Roy or Betty.
On a side note, when I see an obituary attached to a Find A Grave, I do a Obituary Fact and reference it in the description field as “See Find A Grave”. Then attach the Find A Grave, Compiler source. Probably not acceptable by EE standards but that may be the only place I find the obituary.
Jimmy,
DeleteWhen you do a Web Merge, from an Ancestry Find A Grave Index Hint, there may be many Names, dates, places linked in that Web Merge. EACH FACT will have ONE Citation Linked to each Fact. At least that is how I do it.
Not sure what Link you are talking about, but I do NOT include the Web Address in the Citation window, as that is NOT the link called for in the Citation, Using the Source Template Feature.
BUT, if I use the Link, in the Web Address field, It sill take my to that Find A Grave Index screen, where you will find the other information, that you Merged. (Names, dates, and places). In this specific case, not all of the DATA will be seen in that window. So, if you did a screen capture of that Page, some of the DATA in the WEB Merge will NOT Appear. BUT if you look at that Index Record, you will see links to all of the data.
I had an issue with that earlier, when the Index first came out, but I accept all of the DATA from that Web Merge.
Here is the REASON: I do the 2nd Merge from the Find A Grave Website. So, in the end, I will have 2 Citations from most of the Facts in the Index Web Merge.
ALSO, the data in the Web Merge, from the NON-Focus Profile, will, most likely, also have a Find A Grave Index Hint.
The Find A Grave Memorial Number is usually not included in that WEB Merge. I do NOT include the Find A Grave Memorial from the Index Hint / Merge. I only include the Memorial Number from the Find A Grave Website.
I generally will do a bunch of Index Merges, then at a later date, do a bunch of Find A Grave Web Site Merges. The work flow, for me, is different in dealing with a Index HINT, and actually go to the Find A Grave Website.
To your 3 Questions:
Delete1) - Yes, each / both, should give me Hints, as well as other's who may appear in the Web Merge. I keep track of Ancestry Hints. How many or good and how many are bad. I do that to allow me to say that my Ancestry Hints about between 90 and 95% accurate.
IF that are 5 Profiles as a result of the ONE Index Hint, I should end up with 5 Index Hints.
2) - NO. Each Profile should only have ONE Find A Grave Memorial # Fact. That is ONE reason why I only add that Fact, when I go to the Find A Grave Website. Yes, I have seen a couple of Profiles with multiple Memorial Pages. I try to report those "duplicates".
3) - When the Find A Grave website was re-done, They offered a really good Citation, which fits into the Source Template very nicely.
I used to have a Compiler "database". You may have called it a 'Compiler source citation". "source citation" is not the best term. It looks and reads like ONE THING. In Family Tree Maker, and I think this is correct, it is TWO things. A Source and a Citation. Describe the Book (Source) and where in the book did you find what (Citation).
I no longer have a Source Group, listing the "Compiler". REASON: Find A Grave is the Complier and SOURCE of the Information. So Find A Grave is a Source Group.
When I made that Change (no longer have a "Compiler" Source Group, I created a Cemetery Source Group, I keep information about the Cemetery in this Database. Contact information, addresses, etc go into this database (Source Group, and Cemetery Citation).
IF I look at a Burial Fact, I may have many Citations.
EXAMPLE: from a Hint from a Parent, (Index Hint), the Web Merge has a Child and where they are buried. BUT there is NOT a Cemetery in that Merge, only the Location of the Cemetery. 1 Citation from the Index Hint from the Parent.
That Child has an Index Hint, the Web Merge INCLUDES the Cemetery. A 2nd Burial Fact, with that Hint Index Citation. (Ancestry, being the "Compiler" (of the index).
1 Burial Fact, Only Location, Ancestry Compiler (Source Group), Parent Hint
2 Burial Fact, Cemetery Name, and Location, Ancestry Compiler, "Child Hint".
Then, going to the Find A Grave Website, from that "child's hint", that SAME (2nd) Citation, would be linked to the Find A Grave Compiler Source Group, and the Find A Grave Citation.
That is then the 2nd Citation on that Burial FACT, which includes the Cemetery Name.
Then I add the Citation from the Cemetery Database (Source Group) with the details of the Cemetery.
4) - Using the Web Merge feature, puts the Link to the Index, or Find A Grave Memorial in the Web Address Field. That Field is NOT part of any Citation, but is clickable from the Citation in the Sources Workspace or from a Citation for any Facts linked to the Citations.
Oh, and my Cemetery Database (really a Source Group) has the Link to the Cemetery on the Find A Grave website.
Your Side Note:
1) What is an "Obituary" ? A Fact or a Source ?
2) As with ALL Citations, What am I looking at AND Where did I get it from?
I have NO Obituary FACTS !!! I have a bunch of Citations what refer to Obituaries.
IF there is an Obituary on the Find A Grave Website, I will put that in the ToDo List for that profile and try to go find that Obituary, so that I can find that documentation. Same with newspaper articles that someone may post.
Having said that, and I find that Obituary, I would have another Citation for that Burial Fact.
YOU need to figure out how you want to record the information in your database, I am only sharing how I handle the data relating to "Find A Grave".
I hope that helps, and I also think that I have covered all of this is previous blog posts. BUT, many of those blog posts may have changed out I deal with this subject over time. I know that I have made changes based on Features of Family Tree Maker, learning about Sources and Citations, and what my needs are.
Hope that helps,
Russ
I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions.
ReplyDeleteI have been following your 1950 Census how-to's. My "city" people are ready. For my "rural" people, is the township ED the closest I can get? I know the county road for one or two, but my ancestors are mostly rural and I do not have any better address than RR 2, etc. and the township ED.
ReplyDeleteJan,
DeleteI'm with you on that The File I am using is not my own research file. I have started my own file, but I can work off of the 1940 Census to get to the 1950 Census.
In this file, I have a couple of folk you resided in New York City. Forget about it, until I can search.
I'll do another blog post when I have the "rural" folk.
My 1940 Census citations have the SD and ED for those with RD# or RR# addresses. Many of the SD's have been the same for 1940 and 1950, which is a start.
But what I don't know, nor have I seen, is how will those 1940 RR#'s be in 1950. This issue is another reason why I am looking at City Directories and Phone Book records that Ancestry has. I didn't use City Directories until 1940, but now that record collection are a must look at record group.
Russ
I'm with Jan. Most of my people are farming folks in ND & MN that had either RFD (rural free delivery) or RR (rural route) addresses, too.
DeleteThanks for what you're doing, Cousin Russ!
Hi there! Is there a way to add a source to multiple people in bulk? #FTM2019 When I began working on my family tree, I was given a family binder for one branch of my pedigree from which I inputted 700ish people into my tree. I was too new at it to recognize the importance of citing this source for this huge amount of information I inputted. At this point, is the only way to do this 1 by 1, or is there some workaround to add the source in bulk?
ReplyDeleteUnknown,
DeleteFirst, you did NOT Add a SOURCE of a Person. You ADD Citations.
In a word, NO, to bulk adding Citations. One at a time. ONE FACT at a time. Add the Citations as you Add Facts. There is a Quick and easy way to do that.
Here is an example:
https://ftmuser.blogspot.com/2012/04/which-citation-trick.html
Russ
Hi Russ, my wife and I are looking to get FTM 2019, and want to know the size/measurements of the spiral FTM 2019 Companion Guide
ReplyDeletePat and Mark,
DeleteSame size as the regular Companion Guide. I am not near where mine is. Sorry.
Be aware, that there may be a delay in receiving the Companion Guide as it won't be released until the next update. That is in progress, from what I can tell, but I don't know a date.
I'll try to get the measurements to you later.
Russ